What to do if stopped by Malaysian police

[MaruTeamAtKlang]

WHAT TO DO IF STOPPED BY MALAYSIAN POLICE

This is is very useful information. Please pass it on to your friends and family.............especially the women folk!

The next time you are stopped by persons who claimed they are plain clothes police, you are under no obligation to answer their questions or follow their orders, lawyers told Malaysiakini today.

"Policeman who is not wearing his uniform does not have the authority to stop anyone," lawyer and human rights activist Sivarasa Rasiah said.

Sivarasa was commenting on the alleged gang-rape of an 18-year-old Uni student by four men claiming to be police officers on New Year's Eve. The girl said that her car was stopped in Taman Tun Dr Ismail in Kuala Lumpurand were asked by the men to open the car bonnet. She was then told that she had committed an offence and ordered to follow the men to a police station. The girl was driven in her car along the North-South expressway to the Tapah-Cameron Highlands road before she was raped in an oil palm estate.

This incident, and many others, have sparked confusion over the procedures which motorists must follow when flagged down by the police. The most common problem is that most people take instructions without determining if the other person is really a cop," lawyer Annie Santiagosaid.

However, if you are stopped by a uniformed policeman, then you are required to stop. But you need not get out of the car because you are not expected to do so, Santiagosaid. He other rule to follow is to provide your identity card only when you are asked to do so. "Even then, you should get his ID first to confirm if he is a cop. There is no harm in calling the relevant police station to verify if he is supposed to be on duty that day," Sivarasa said.

Both lawyers said that motorists should never follow an officer to the police station unless one is under arrest . "If you are not sure, and your instincts tell you that something is wrong, then drive off to the nearest police station and lodge a report," Sivarasa said.

In response to the alleged gang-rape of the 18-year-old, Women's Aid Organisation executive-secretary Ivy Josiah called on the police to launch an education program to teach the public about their rights to prevent them from being victimised by bogus police officers.

Procedures to follow in the event you are stopped by uniformed police Officers while driving:

1. Stop the car and wind down your window.
2. If the police officers ask for your documents, request to see their
IDs first.
3. If you are satisfied about their identity, ask them if you are being
summoned, and for what offence.
4. Produce your identity card and driver's license and wait to collect
your summon ticket.

In the event that the police officers ask you to follow them to the police station:

1. Ask if you are under arrest and for what offence.
2. If you are not under arrest, you have the right to leave.

In the event you are flagged down by persons you believe could be plain clothes police:

1. Do not stop because plain clothes police officers do not have the
authority to stop you.
2. Drive to the nearest police station and lodge a report. (The same
procedure applies to pedestrians)

In the event the police come to your house:

1. Do not let them in before checking their IDs.
2. If you are not satisfied, phone the nearest police station and
confirm if they had been sent to your house.
3. You are under no obligation to allow them into the house if they
don't have a search warrant.
4. Do not go with them if you are not under arrest.

In the event persons who claimed to be plain clothes police come to your house:

1. Do not let him in because they do not have the authority to do so.
2. Lodge a report at the nearest police station.


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[iSakai]

I received this in my email....

Quote:Dear Friends,
You may forward this out to your friends or copy/paste and blog about
it, but pls remove anything that will allow people to trace it back
to me (ie. the title) but this seriously happened to me lohh.
I read the front page of the Malay Mail dated Friday, January 12 2007 entitled CAUGHT IN THE ACT? about a policeman accepting a bribe.
(FYI: Policemen do wear uniforms that are white long sleeve shirts, I saw 2 under the Motorola bridge this morning, I took a picture but it wasn't clear, and the police who stopped me a week ago rode a normal motorbike with a dark helmet, and not the standard police motorbike which is white with a white helmet.)
I would like to add that whether it is a hoax or not, Malaysian police have not changed much. This is what happened to me:
Date : 11 Jan 2007
Time : 6:49pm
Venue : On Federal Highway, from KL towards Subang, flyover cross-secting with Jalan 222 (near Naza, after Hilton flyover)
I was on my way to Sunway, Federal was jammed as usual. At the Naza flyover, I thought maybe using the parallel underpass would be faster, so instead of going up the flyover, I kept left and used the parallel road which crosses Jalan 222 instead. At the traffic lights cross junction, there was a policeman. The policeman was diverting traffic from federal highway into Jalan 222 (meaning all motorists had to turn
right) but I wanted to go straight. It wasn't illegal to go straight.
I was persistent, I wanted to go straight but he was blocking my way.
Finally, I glared at him and turned right. I had no choice but to jam all the way into Jalan 222 and did a u-turn at the residential area.
Inevitably, I ended up at the same cross junction where the policeman was.
Just as I expected, he stopped me at the traffic lights. I was holding up traffic but he didn't care. Car's were honking but I didn't care. If he wanted to embarrass me, let him do it! Finally, he directed me to the road shoulder.
As he slowly strolled over to my car, I wound down my window and asked what the matter was. Here is the conversation that ensued:
ME Apa masalahnya encik?
Police Apa you cakap pada saya tadi? (he demanded angrily)
ME Tak ada apa encik?
Police Apa you cakap pada saya tadi? (he repeated even louder)
ME Tak ada apa encik. Saya pun tak tahu apa saya cakap. Kalau you
tahu, you beritahu sayalah, Apa saya cakap tadi?
Police Eh jangan main-main ah! (he glared at me)
ME Main apa encik? Apa kesalahan saya sekarang?
Police Apa you cakap pada saya tadi? (MUCH MUCH LOUDER NOW, I was getting pissed too, he stopped me but can't tell me my offence!)
ME Eh encik, awak stop saya tapi tak boleh cakap apa kesalahan saya
kah? Saya nyanyi kah, saya cakap telefon kah, saya marah awak kah, you boleh prove kah?
Police Eh, saya polis lah...saya mahu stop siapa-siapa pun boleh!
Sekarang saya mahu stop mana-mana kereta pun boleh lah! IC mari!
ME Tak boleh, selagi encik tak boleh cakap saya salah apa, saya tak
akan bagi IC! (I wasn't going to let him bully me)
Police Eh saya kata bagi IC lah!
ME Tak boleh, selagi encik tak boleh cakap saya salah apa, saya tak
akan bagi IC! (I repeated adamantly)
Police Eh saya polis lah, saya berkuasa tahu kah?
ME Saya tahu, tapi encik, saya salah apa pun encik tak boleh
beritahu,
encik mahu IC saya buat apa?
Police Saya mahu tengok lah!
ME Tak boleh! (This was getting no where!)
(Another police approaches my car...)
Police 2 Apa masalah ni?
Police 1 Saya minta IC, dia tak bagi.
Police 2 Eh dia minta IC, kenapa tak bagi?
ME Kerana saya salah apa pun dia tak boleh beritahu.
Police 2 Eh kita polis lah, berkuasa tahu tak?
ME Eh itu semua, dia sudah beritahu lah, you tak payah cakap lagi!
Police 2 Bagi IC sekarang! (he was shouting in my face now...I was alone in the car)
ME TIDAK! Saya salah apa sekarang?! You masih tak boleh cakap lah!
Police 2 Eh saya boleh kata awak tak berkerjasama dengan polis,tahu kah?
ME Ya kah? Ok lah, tidak berkerjasama atas apa kesalahan?
Police 1 Oi! Saya kata bagi IC sekarang lah! (he was still shouting)
ME OK, saya mahu buat panggilan telefon dulu (I was intimidated, no doubt...but I wasn't going to give in to their bullying!)( made my phone call, and was "advised" / persuaded on the phone to give my IC and not create a fuss, I consented)
Police 1 Eh you telefon siapa tadi? Lawyer kah?
ME Eh I telefon lawyer kah, I telefon doktor kah, I telefon ayah kah, I telefon kawan kah...you peduli apa?! Sekarang buat panggilan telefon pun bersalah kah?! Saya akan bagi IC saya sekarang tapi saya mahu catit nama dengan nombor polis you!
Police 1 You mahu tulis kah? Tulis lah! Tulis lah!
ME Baiklah, saya tulis (and began writing down both their name and badge numbers)(As I was writing...)
Police 2 Eh kalau you report aku, aku boleh sumbat you dalam lokap tahu kah?!
ME (I laughed in his face!) Yakah? You mahu sumbat saya dalam lokap kah? You punya report mahu tulis apa? Saya tidak bekerjasama atas kesalahan apa?! Saya salah apa pun you tak boleh cakap lah, you ingat saya takut kah?!(I finished writing both their names and badge numbers and handed him my IC and driving license)
Police 1 was holding on to my IC and license, lipping it from side to side without doing anything

ME Eh sudah cukup tengok kah?! Saya mahu pergi lah!

(Police 1 handed me back my IC, but still holding on to my license)

ME Eh saya punya license mana? Saya mahu pergi sekarang lah!
Police 2 Nama saja orang Malaysia, attitude macam ini! (He gave up and walked off but I stuck my head out the window and shouted after him...)
ME Eh you semua polis sama lah! Semua orang pun tahu you semua suka buli kita orang lah!
Police 1 (He glared at me and said...) Apa you cakap?!
ME Ya lah! Salah kah? Saya kata...semua orang pun tahu...you polis semua pun sama...suka buli orang saja! Sekarang saya mahu license saya balik lah!
(Police 1 chucked my license back to me in disbelief, I guess he didn't expect me to be such a tough nut to crack! He truly picked the wrong person to bully)
ME Tak ada apa-apa lagi kan? Boleh saya pergi sekarang?!

(He reluctantly released me, I laughed in his face and drove away, leaving him gawking in frustration!)

My point is, the police force are "SUPPOSED" to protect us but they are BULLYING us instead! First of all, I hadn't committed any crime. Second of all, I wasn't under arrest. Thirdly, he just couldn't tell me what he stopped me for! So why should I give in to them?! These 2 policemen are a DISGRACE to the police force and I wish to reveal both their names and badge numbers:

Police 1 Idrus 127124
Police 2 Rafizan 130500

And before I finish, attached herewith is a useful handbook which teaches you to Know your rights if you're stopped by a policeman in future, it will certainly come in handy! Print it out (only a few pages) and keep it in the compartment of your car. And just to prove that this booklet is genuine, here is a website to check it out:
http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/component...k,cat_view
/Itemid,1/gid,333/orderby,dmdatecounter/ascdesc,DESC/

[anyon996]

1st word.. Malaysian Police Force has no standard..
even there is thousands of report alot of fake or con Policemen..
but they do not actually take action..
they only take action on Coffee Add Sugar..

[aircraft]

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everybody should read this.... good precaution.

[Jason]

Polis Raja Di Malaysia...

[muiyee]

Dear Isakai,

If I am the police I would tangkap the guy already. Refuse to show IC somemore wasting the police time argueing. wallao I would slap him kao kao if I am his wife. Such a jerk

[8deee]

hehe....in US .....people are proud of their kids becoming police ....even their community.....but we are ashame of them...hehe....

[DeViL]

(03-25-2009 05:28 PM)8deee Wrote:  hehe....in US .....people are proud of their kids becoming police ....even their community.....but we are ashame of them...hehe....

Actually if anyone who have been stopped by a police without any reason always record your conversation, or in fact tell them u will record your conversation b4hand. I have done this a few times when I got stop without reason somtimes telling me I speeding, or suspect I mabuk or sum funny stuff. Usually this happens after midnite, rarely I get stop during broad day light. Do take care as there's cases where police purposely plant things in your car if ur too lansi to them. One of my collegue answer police very lansi and even scold them in canto "sohai" and they know my collegue is scoldin them thus they purposely claim got 1 packet of xtc pills in his car boot. End up had to go police station and explain bout the pills. Last last had to black mail them with Rm 5k to settle case. I suggest dont give them too much of a hard time, smile smile everyone happy. They do have the upperhand towards these things and even if 2nd or 3rd officer comes in they wont help us in fact almost whole place is buyable with $$$$$ if u know where to dump your $$$$$$.

[Jefferson]

What a shame to PDRM. How to described them as "anggota yang berdisiplin". Abusing their power n bully ppl. Waste of taxpayer money to send them for training to become the so called "anggota yang berdisiplin".

[howy_lee]

well well let me tell u guys la, if the estacy found in ya car, u got no finger prints there it means u are not guilty
and 1 more thing is, police cant take ur IC more than 3 feet away from u, thats our right to protect it